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Pluribus Unum\n\n\nThe war with Iran has been marked by collapsed ceasefires, expanding airstrikes and mounting American and Iranian casualties. In recent days the U.S. military announced the deaths of three more servicemembers, two of whom died in an Iranian missile strike. The U.S. is pressing on with a fight that has no end in sight \u2014 or even a clear definition of what an acceptable end would be. BEIRUT \u2014 President Trump long railed against forever wars. For years, whether as president or candidate, he flayed electoral opponents and previous presidents with his signature barbs, calling their entanglements a \u201ccomplete waste of time\u201d (Afghanistan), \u201cthe worst single mistake ever made in the history of our country\u201d (Iraq) and \u201cstupid\u201d (Ukraine). Yet he now appears to be stumbling into a forever war of his own. From the first days of the U.S.-Israeli campaign against Iran, Trump and his officials insisted their adventure abroad would be the exception, that the conflict would end in a matter of weeks. Now, 4\u00bd months later, after a torturous, start-stop vacillation between truce and war, the U.S. is pressing on with a fight that has no end in sight \u2014 or even a clear definition of what an acceptable end would be. In the last week, the ceasefire collapsed, with the U.S. and Iran trading daily waves of strikes, leading to the deaths of two American servicemen on Friday when Iranian ballistic missiles struck Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan, where U.S. assets and personnel are stationed. On Sunday, as the U.S. and Iran launched more air assaults, the U.S. announced that a service member was killed Saturday in Iraq during the controlled detonation of unexploded ordnance from a downed Iranian one-way attack drone. The deaths in Jordan were the first combat fatalities since the U.S...\n\n(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...\n\n\n\nTOPICS: Military/Veterans; Weird Stuff\nKEYWORDS: 123oclock4oclockzot; alltdsallthetime; butukraineisok; concerntroll; concerntrolling; demedia; foreverwars; ibtz; iran; laslimes; losangelesslimes; losangelestimes; mullahloversonfr; multiplenicks; nabihbulos; officialdemnarrative; randspam; rop; tds; terroristloversonfr; waronterror; worldwar3; zot\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nNavigation: use the links below to view more comments.\n first 1-20,\u00a021-40,\u00a041-60,\u00a061-80\u00a0...\u00a0121-134 next last\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n2\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:17:46 PM PDT\nby Texas Eagle\n(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. )\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n The left and their love of Iran ,LOL\n\n\n3\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:20:02 PM PDT\nby butlerweave\n(Fateh)\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n It\u2019s from the Lost Angeless Slimes!\nIt must be true!\n\n\n4\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:21:54 PM PDT\nby Ronaldus Magnus III\n(Do, or do not, there is no try. )\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n5\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:22:41 PM PDT\nby TTFX\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n War with Islam is a long term war.\n\n\n6\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:23:04 PM PDT\nby ealgeone\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n The end desired is the overthrow of the regime by the people of Iran. If it had been merely to crush Iran , power plants and infrastructure would be smoldering ruins right now.\n\n\n7\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:24:13 PM PDT\nby Nateman\n(Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n Strange how history repeats itself. The civilized world fought the demons before in the Christian Crusades but didn\u2019t finish the job and now the task is even more overwhelming because they have returned and proliferated all over the world. What does that mean on the scale of evil versus good?\n\n\n8\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:27:29 PM PDT\nby iontheball\n(, )\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: ealgeone\n\n We\u2019ve been at war with Iran forever. This is the first time we fought back.\n\n\n9\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:28:06 PM PDT\nby shelterguy\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: ealgeone\n\n War with Islam is a long term war. Is anyone on this website gullible enough to believe some of the nonsense they post? \n\n10\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:28:15 PM PDT\nby Alberta's Child\n(If I leave here, it\u2019s because I\u2019m tired of arguing with geriatric parrots wearing MAGA hats.)\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n It started out fine then it started dragging out into what could be another forever war. However this one involves Trump so all bets are off. He intentionally makes himself less predictable.\n\n\n11\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:28:20 PM PDT\nby plain talk\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n I don\u2019t care who\u2019s saying it, its kind of obvious that\u2019s exactly what\u2019s happening.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n This war is becoming an unmitigated disaster. It\u2019s the most unpopular war since polling began. Iran will wind up controlling the Persian Gulf and there\u2019s nothing we can do about it. Even worse will be the loss of the petrodollar. Our bases in the region have been destroyed and it\u2019s unlikely most of them will be rebuilt. Sending in ground troops will be catastrophic but Trump will do it anyway because his ego won\u2019t accept losing but we are gonna lose anyway. It will be a major embarrassment for the US. Trump is making Jimmy Carter look like a geopolitical master. Inflation will kick in around the time of the midterms and the Dems will sweep the elections maybe even take the Senate. Best prepare yourself because everything is about crumble beyond what anyone suspects.\n\n\n13\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:36:58 PM PDT\nby jimwatx\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n 47 years and we\u2019re finally taking some action to end this forever war. Kill \u2018em all.\n\n\n14\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:37:56 PM PDT\nby BlackbirdSST\n(FTL)\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum; All\n\n Oh no! We\u2019ve been fighting and treating with Iran for almost four months!\n\u201cForever war\u201d says the LA Times. They must love and support our country and the President to offer such strategic military advice. All leftist/communist media is lining up to offer guidance to President Trump.\nWhat Patriots they must be? They must love the United States! And President Trump.\n/sarcasm off\n\n\n15\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:44:54 PM PDT\nby KitJ\n(Shall not be infringed...)\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n Not to mention Iran\u2019s military has been \u201cobliterated\u201d several times now and they\u2019re still fighting. Whoever is running foreign policy in the White House House should resign.\n\n\n16\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:49:10 PM PDT\nby nonliberal\n(Pinochet did nothing wrong.)\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n I\u2019m inclined to lean towards Victor Davis Hanson\u2019s analysis of what\u2019s going on as opposed to the LA Times. As brilliant as the writers at the LA Times are\n\n\n17\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:49:55 PM PDT\nby ChildOfThe60s\n(If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there)\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n The Left only hopes. In fact, many are openly rooting for the IRGC.\n\n\n18\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:52:20 PM PDT\nby Mr. Mojo\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: iontheball\n\n Strange how history repeats itself. Sadly, yes In 2002 - 2004, Republicans won all three branches, the Dems were on the ropes and there was talk about a permanent Republican Majority. Then Israel insisted that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and we have to go to war, which Bush did. Because of this in 2006 and 2008 the Dems got new life and came roaring back from the dead and won big majorities. In 2024, Republicans won all three branches, the Dems were on the ropes and there was talk about a permanent Republican Majority, especially with the 2030 Census and Blue State Exodus. Then Israel insisted that Iran is weeks away from having a nuclear weapons and we have go to war for them, which Trump did. Because of this in 2026 the Dems got new life and.......\n\n19\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:52:58 PM PDT\nby qam1\n(There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)\n\n\n\n\n\nTo: E. Pluribus Unum\n\n Minimum objective: no nukes. Ideal objective: limit Iran's force projection into Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon, Nigeria. Hopefully, we can achieve the minimal objective without resorting to draconian measures. If necessary, we can achieve the minimum objective even without a negotiated peace, but this will be extremely ugly and take some time. Ever notice how the MSM was slobbering all over the Ukraine war, 100% lockstep, foaming at the mouth with every escalation of this war, how after 4.5 years all we hear is victory stories even though the Russians have attained both their military and political objectives? Is the MSM really under the belief that Iran who has been killing our people since 1979 (hostages), 1983 Marine Corps barracks bombing in Beirut, providing intel and material assistance to insurgents and militias in Iraq killing our forces, backing the Houti\u2019s, Nigerian militias, Hezbollah in Lebanon is better than Russia? Why this difference in reporting?Why is our media far more critical compared to Ukraine in how the war is executed, if we are achieving our goals, the collateral damage, why is suddenly every casualty or loss on our side highlighted, suddenly 5 months for Iran in an air campaign is a forever war, but 4.5 YEARS in a ground war costing tens of thousands of lives often per month didn't matter?Could it be, that it makes a difference that a Republican, and an unapologetic conservative, a white male macho / leader type that isn't gay, is in office today?\n\n20\nposted on 07/20/2026 1:53:23 PM PDT\nby Red6\n\n\n\n\n\n\nNavigation: use the links below to view more comments.\n first 1-20,\u00a021-40,\u00a041-60,\u00a061-80\u00a0...\u00a0121-134 next last\n\n\n Disclaimer:\n Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual\n posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its\n management. 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